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  Were You Surprised That The "World" Was Not As Bad As The Watchtower Claimed?

  by minimus in

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  if you leave the "safe waters" of the organization and go back into the world, you are doomed to misery----per the watchtower.....was that your experience?.

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  mindmelda - this reminds me of my mom. Same issues with anxiety and depression. Interestingly enough she would blame her irregularity in the congregation on the corruption within the congregation yet insist that we remain a part of it. Same with my dad. We're a big family of jws on both sides and all of my family thinks they have a real personal relationship with jehovah in spite of the problems in the organization. They will be the ones to see the congregation cleaned out.

  So yeah again I didn't think the world was so bad at all........lol

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  The only reason most of us are here is......

  by Quillsky in

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  .....disfellowshipping, i think.. potential disfellowshipping, current disfellowshipping, disfellowshipping of people we love.. it's the most genius cult tool ever invented..

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  Nope Quillsky - I'm here because I love to read the words of those who are going through what I'm going through. I love getting advice from those who have walked a mile in my shoes and can teach me how to live post JWhood. Me and my husband were not df'd. We made the well thought out decision to get the hell out of the religion that had stolen the first 36 years of our life.

  I think you may be getting around to the fact that most of us are here for the association. It was an absolute relief to find others who had been through what we had gone through..... well maybe I'm putting words in your mouth.......lol

  Beautiful words peaches. I think the therapy is awesome too freeflyingfaerie. Couldn't pay for this much support in a million years.

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  The generation changed is explained in the June 15'th WT!

  by life is to short in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  it is here in writing the new generation change.

  on page 5 of the of the wt while talking about the annual meeting report.. "john barr gave the third and final talk.".

  "john barr made clear that the gathering wound not continue indefinitely.

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  Yep I think you're on to something.

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  Sexual Repression 101. Pure WT Gold: Wednesday's Daily Text.

  by Open mind in

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  wednesday's daily text was a masterpiece.

  each sentence just added another layer of sexual guilt and repression.

  i could go off for at least another 500 words but i'll stop.. .

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  Excellent comments mindmelda and palmtree- I'm with you 100% girlfriends. A red flag should go up when you can date someone for years and the two of you never disrobe. And witnesses are taught to fear the chemistry that can make sexual bonding successful. So if you don't know better you marry someone you are "safe" with sexually. So sad.

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  Were You Surprised That The "World" Was Not As Bad As The Watchtower Claimed?

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  if you leave the "safe waters" of the organization and go back into the world, you are doomed to misery----per the watchtower.....was that your experience?.

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  Until we reached our teen years, we were allowed worldly friends. So no I wasn't surprised that they weren't that bad. As witness kids you're taught "they may seem nice but they don't love Jehovah". So I just knew there were a lot of nice worldly people who didn't love Jehovah around me.

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  Being a born-in I was surprised that the witnesses were worse than the Watchtower claimed. The longer I lived among these people the more I learned just how hateful, malicious, and ungodly they could be. Granted that goes for some in the world as well. But when you are taught to expect a certain standard among god's chosen people it can be quite shocking to watch them in action.

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  Most people who are not JW's live with out moral restrain! All who have left the "Truth" regret it. June 15th WT

  by life is to short in

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  2. scandals

  in the june 15th wt it says on page 9 i will just write it out as it is to hard and unbelievable to preface this.

  so here it is.. "many who today are members of the christian congregation can tell you that before learning of and adopting jehovah's righteous standards, they lived without moral restrain.

  yet, they were unsatisfied and unhappy.

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  By Watchtower's own admission appx. 40,000 of their members are disfellowshipped yearly for immorality. This does not take into account the "many" who are reproved for the same conduct. So being in the "safe waters" is no guarantee one will exercise moral restraint either.

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  What is your "INTUITION" about THE SECRET "law of attraction"?

  by Terry in

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  ever hear somebody say, "trust your gut..."?.

  or, like obe wan kenobe: "trust your feelings...."?.

  have you ever followed that "little voice" that whispers to you that you should or should not do something?.

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  I would appreciate it if someone would explain to me how LOA and The Secret work for the disadvantaged in the world. How does it help those born physically and mentally disabled? How can those in war torn, ravaged lands apply this thought? How can a young girl in the congo use it to prevent herself from getting raped? How can a young child benefit from these so that its parents won't sell or maim them for profit?

  Is LOA and The secret something that all of us can benefit from or is it mostly available to those in the already advantaged parts of the world? Is Intuition something that all humans are born with or is it acquired predominately by those of us who have our basic needs met and therefore have the extra time, money and energy to sit and make use of it? Can it be employed successfully beyond the acquisition of things that we in the west consider important? For example how could those who were victims of the earthquake in Haiti or the tsunami a few years ago have prevented the disasters or at least saved themselves? How can a person lacking clean running water get some fresh water to drink? How can those with no food get 3 meals a day?

  For those who make use of these tools I would appreciate a brief lesson so that we can save those who are suffering. Please.

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  What is your "INTUITION" about THE SECRET "law of attraction"?

  by Terry in

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  2. family

  ever hear somebody say, "trust your gut..."?.

  or, like obe wan kenobe: "trust your feelings...."?.

  have you ever followed that "little voice" that whispers to you that you should or should not do something?.

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  JeanV - "I tend to agree that reality does not exist. each one of us creates his own. the same event is perceived by each individual in a differfent way."

  How does this work in "real" life?

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  Do you still pray? Why?

  by gubberningbody in

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  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jk6ilzaaami.

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  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uazdcs-rmf4.

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  I used to pray several times a day when I thought there was a God who was listening and who cared. Then I realized that I'm nobody special. If there is a God, why is he listening to me and not those who are suffering? Prayer makes absolutely no sense to me.

  I like the thoughts on this thread about prayer v meditation. I'll have to investigate that a bit.

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  Any one still dwelling or struggling with JW family still? (Hello old friends, I back for the moment)

  by Butterflyleia85 in

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  it's been a little over a month since i been on here?.

  so what's new with me... well may 29th is when my sister and her husband is getting baptized as a jw!

  bluh i don't think i want too.

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  Hey Butterfly, yeah still have lots of family in. It's hard. They are not shunning us and actually our siblings are as close as ever b/c they agree with us on so much. However, the rest of the family isn't as close to us b/c we don't attend meetings anymore. We're fine with it. Pretty much expected this from them. Doesn't make it any more difficult to swallow though. Hang in there.

  Do you think it will soothe things between you and your sister if you went to the baptism? It may show her that you're willing to support her no matter what and then she might be moved to reciprocate in kind.

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